Post-#MeToo, Ernst & Young Grapples With Diverging Views Of Its Culture

Nov 7, 2019
Originally published on November 7, 2019 6:09 pm

There's a culture war playing out at Ernst & Young.

The accounting giant is often held up as a paragon of workplace culture. But it also faces a recent backlash over a training program that, among other things, coached some of its top female executives to wear flattering and "well-cut attire." The episode raises questions about whether — and how much — workplaces have changed after the #MeToo movement.

In the wake of #MeToo, Ernst & Young made a number of changes aimed at improving its culture, especially for women. It tapped a woman, Kelly Grier, as its top U.S. executive, created a team to investigate employee complaints, and began requiring reporting of romantic relationships at work.

Even before that, the company, which has over a quarter-million employees worldwide, was held up as a model for workplace culture. Both Fortune and Working Mother magazines this year named it a top place to work for women, who make up nearly a third of its top U.S. executives.

The company's leadership is outspoken about its commitment to advance women.

"So much of what we stand for is about our culture, it is about our values," Grier said at a March conference discussing workplace culture.

But for years — and even at the height of the #MeToo movement — Ernst & Young sponsored a leadership training program for its female executives that promoted outdated sexist views. Top women executives were told to manicure their nails and wear fitting attire, but to avoid plunging necklines, for example. Affection and cheerfulness were feminine traits, they were told, whereas ambition and assertiveness were masculine. The curriculum — which was leaked to the Huffington Post — described men's brains as better at focusing.

In response, there was public outcry and the company canceled the program. But in her initial response, Grier, the company's U.S. chairman, appeared to also defend the training.

Grier originally sent a video statement to employees, attacking the news stories as clickbait. She added that women actually liked the program.

"What we heard from them is that they found it to be very meaningful to them personally," she said in the original version, according to the Huffington Post.

Later, Grier's defensive statements were edited out, leaving only the part where she disavowed the training: "Not only is it inconsistent with our values and my personal values, but it is wholly in conflict with my own experience as a woman in the firm."

But Karen Ward, a former Ernst & Young executive, argues that the controversial training is, in fact, illustrative of the firm's problem.

"The training is entirely consistent with my own experience as a female executive," she says. Ward wrote an open letter to the company, arguing the training underscores the culture she describes in her own ongoing legal battle with the company.

Ward is one of two female partners who filed legal claims against Ernst & Young last year for sexual harassment and retaliation. Ward says she brought in millions in client business for the company and even won an award in 2015 for her performance. However, she says, "the culture at EY has really tried to crush me. It's been crushing to my spirit, it's caused me tremendous anxiety."

She describes the culture as a "frat house" environment: "My direct boss talking about my nice ass, my great, big round boobs," she says. "And I was told that my leading was being perceived as bitchy."

After she repeatedly complained, Ward says she was transferred first to a small division, then out of meetings and deals, and finally terminated.

NPR reached out to Ernst & Young, whose officials say it investigated Ward's complaints, and that she was fired, not as retaliation, but because her business unit lost money. The company says it is aggressively defending itself against her claims. (Ward and the company are also fighting over who should pay the cost of arbitration.)

But Ward argues that her firing — and the company's response to her voicing complaints — shows how Ernst & Young silences women. She says it's the same environment that allowed the sexist training to go on for years — a program that advised top executives to not show too much skin because sexuality "scrambles" the mind.

Ward says she's spoken to many women still working at Ernst & Young who fear retribution, like her, if they come forward.

"I was hopeful for change; I still am hopeful for change," she says. "I want to be part of that change."

She hopes things will change so eventually people will feel safer reporting discrimination and harassment.

Ernst & Young says it does not tolerate harassment or discrimination and already encourages employees to report it.

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Police dogs and their handlers have a special bond. They work together all day and usually live together. But in many places, like Texas, the dogs have long been considered government property by law, which means that once the dogs retired, they were supposed to be destroyed or auctioned off. I say were because thanks to Proposition 10, which passed with overwhelming support this week, that is no longer true in Texas. Police dogs now get to retire with their handlers or be adopted.

Joining us now is Chase Karacostas. He's a reporter with The Texas Tribune, and he did a deep dive on this law. Welcome.


CHANG: So tell me a little bit about how the old law in the state Constitution would work. It would mean that once a dog retired, it would have to be either euthanized or just given up to somebody outside of the force.

KARACOSTAS: So generally, they have about a five- to eight-year working life. They start whenever they're 1 to 2. And then they would retire when they're, like, 8 to 10. And the old law, the way it was set up, is to basically prevent abuse of government property. And it was written really broadly, so it could imply to law enforcement. It could apply to counties. It could apply to cities. It could apply to the state government, anything like - anything that could be considered government property. They just didn't want, like, people basically taking government property home and then using it for themselves.

CHANG: Right, like the gun the officer used while...


CHANG: ...In service or the uniform...


CHANG: ...Et cetera.

KARACOSTAS: But dogs just kind of got clumped into this because dogs are considered to be property under most state and federal laws.

CHANG: Tell me about the push to get this proposition on the ballot. The way I understand it, it started with a Collin County sheriff named Jim Skinner, who had long worked with dogs, even back when he was in the Air Force.

KARACOSTAS: Yeah. So Jim Skinner was a canine handler back in the Air Force in the late '70s and early '80s. He was working in the Philippines. And the dog that he was with was actually getting up there in age, and so he knew that it wasn't going to be passed on to another handler, most likely. And so he extended his tour several times so that he could stay with his dog, whose name was Jessie.

CHANG: Just to stay with his dog, he kept adding...


CHANG: ...To his tour (laughter).

KARACOSTAS: Yes. And then fast forward 40-ish years later, he becomes the sheriff of Collin County. They needed to retire a couple dogs. They found out about these issues in the law. And so they went to their local lawmakers and were like, can you help us?

CHANG: I love it. And so this measure passed by an overwhelming margin - something like 93%, right?


CHANG: I'm curious - who were the holdouts? I mean, what were the arguments against this proposition?

KARACOSTAS: I literally don't know.


KARACOSTAS: There was not a single vote in either house against it. So I have no idea. Who knows?

CHANG: Well, now that it's passed, it's a done deal. So if a police dog retires, where does that dog go? Is it up to the officer who works with the dog?

KARACOSTAS: The final decision will be made by the supervisor for whatever agency it is. So it would be something that, like, the sheriff would probably be involved in. But generally, the first choice is going to be the handler. And then there's also provisions that allow, like, if the handler was injured, he can take the dog home with him. If he dies, the dog can go to his family. And so there's other provisions that ensure that these dogs are taken care of no matter what.

CHANG: Well, I love it.

Chase Karacostas is a reporter with The Texas Tribune. Thanks so much for joining us today.


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